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Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:58 pm
by tzahiak
Hello,

I recently got back to hellfire, and I saw today the that top rank players hits the boss with high amount of damage.

I know they aren't cheaters but can someone explain to me how they do over 200m in 1 attack ?
I did the math and it seems so high to me.

Thank you,I know it's maybe a weird question or a noobie one but I wanna know :)

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:02 pm
by juliencod
Hello,
They use many elites (SRE and URE) and master rewinders. Moreover, some paid for OP cards which have better skill (like abbadon who add more time than a basic master rewinders)

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:45 pm
by Tazzlehoof
Add legendary cards and you're easily there. This round earth cards are strong vs the final bosses. Many got s4 Time from chests a few events back, granting 25 % attack bonus for earth crestures. I'm lucky enough to have Maracatu also, for another 25 % attack bonus. Top that with last event's top sr card being earth and elite this event, and box sre damek being earth, that's a good start for 200k+ damage, when you load up on rewinders (which both this week's box ur and mother lupescu are, in addition to being elites, and both are water element, which is 2nd strongest vs final bosses).

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:04 am
by tzahiak
Oh I see, thank you guys for the info. I decided to stack up on food, I got some epic cards since I got back and I'll try to compete in the next event :)

P.s - I recognize Tazzlehoof from the game, I tried to help you a few times ;)

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:12 pm
by Tazzlehoof
Thanks for helping!
And here you can see my attempt at breaking the next barrier :)
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Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:54 pm
by tzahiak
Wow nice, I just saw you again, didn't manage to attack on time.
I have to ask, why is your name glowing in gold ?

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:55 pm
by Torn
Because he ranked in T10 last dungeon. :PDT_015:

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:54 am
by Tazzlehoof
Nonono, because i'm special! :)

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:06 am
by tzahiak
Lol I'm special too, I can use a silver glow if they ran out of gold...

Torn - I like your quote, don't buy a house ;)

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:06 am
by Creation
With Abbadon and another rewinder, I can sometimes increase the boss' escape time to over 100 seconds. And then with the rest of my deck stacked with fully evolved/leveled elites (the x4 and x5 cards this week), achieving an attack between 150M to 200M is fairly easy with 3 BE.

And Torn won't be buying a house anytime soon, he's a dedicated player if you get my drift ;)

I couldn't break the barrier this time with the screwed up seal distribution this week, but here was last raid, almost killed the team legend in one attack just to see if I could do it
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Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:12 am
by juliencod
Creation wrote:With Abbadon and another rewinder, I can sometimes increase the boss' escape time to over 100 seconds. And then with the rest of my deck stacked with fully evolved/leveled elites (the x4 and x5 cards this week), achieving an attack between 150M to 200M is fairly easy.

And Torn won't be buying a house anytime soon, he's a dedicated player if you get my drift ;)


sometimes over 100s ?! :P

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:15 am
by Creation
Not with him alone, but coupled with a second master rewinder in the deck, yes...easily

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:19 am
by juliencod
only with abbadon you can easily reach 100s :corwin2:

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:24 am
by Creation
Rarely, but it's possible... with no fail and sets with more than 3 seals (it's been my luck lately where Abbadon only feels like firing when there's only 3 seals, lol), it can be done Julien, yes. My experiencing this phenomena however has been rare.

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:06 pm
by tzahiak
I gotta get me that abaddon, he sounds nice ;)

I got 2 Chaos unbound, its my first epic...i also have some UR but only s1, so i got a lot of work to do :D

P.s - is there any summon with fire coins that guarantee me an UR ?

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:17 pm
by Torn
Hehe, Julien is a bit laughing here, Creation - a deck setup with normal master rewinds usually comprises 4-5 master rewinds, which easily rev you up beyond 100 seconds... It not rare to see 120-140+ range, in fact, back in the days of old raid setup I really hated when my clock went below 100s as I felt rushed and made tons of mistakes trying to speed up things... It was pretty rare for me to kill the day 2 ruby bosses with less than 100s remaining, only diamonds were 'problematic'. ;)
My current record is, if I recall correctly, 196 seconds on clock. :PDT_015:

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:33 pm
by Torn
tzahiak wrote:I gotta get me that abaddon, he sounds nice ;)

I got 2 Chaos unbound, its my first epic...i also have some UR but only s1, so i got a lot of work to do :D

P.s - is there any summon with fire coins that guarantee me an UR ?

Abaddon is very nice, because of the skill - rewinds are one of the most important cards in the game.

Chaos Unbound is, I'm sorry to say that to you, completely useless - reducing your attack is *never* a good idea, under no circumstances whatsoever is that good... Well, maybe when HCing, but having deck with 4xChaos Unbound + rest earth is *way, way* slower than just using 9xReinforce Spirit(/anima/wisp/aetherea and so on), so... Not really usable, sorry. :(

There are some summons that use stones to guarantee you an UR, but those are rare and happen irregularly, so it's hard to predict when that will happen again.
Other than that, you can sometimes get Crystal Spirits from some sales, that gives you guaranteed URs, but generally much older ones with not so good stats. In general, your best bet to get URs is clearing boxes.
[edit]
Now thinking about it, actually there is one guaranteed summon - box tiers, once you clear all other cards, the tier will summon UR automatically... Still, that is *very* pricey way of obtaining URs, it is cheaper, I think, to buy pots(in DE) or LBEs(in raids) and clear boxes by playing, in fact.

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:30 am
by tzahiak
Snap !! I have 95 and 75 chaos :( should I keep them or use as food ?

So basically I should focus on rewinders ?
I don't have a lot of UR, in SR I keep the high attack low HP cards (like inferno and Flying Dutchman)

I'm not sure what cards to keep after this post :)
Can someone watch my cards and give me some tips ?

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:46 am
by flownm
Sure, just post ur cards here or name them.

I noticed several issues with OP rewinders since i got 2 of them. They are great but not that uber great as it seems to be. With magma and abaddon in deck u can still get a total fail without a single proc in 5 waves. The great thing of these cards are the higher activation times they offer to make up for single or double seal procs.
To minimize these my way is to put rewinds in spot 1 of different rows and try to clear the seals as fast as possible until all activations are used up for the loss of critical hits then slow down to hit more accurate.
But the weird thing is sometimes rewinds activate the moment u throw the orb and sometimes they activate at the end of the round. That way you often lose the proc for 1 or 2 seals.

Re: Event damage

PostMessage posted...: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:08 pm
by tzahiak
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This is the majority of my cards, I have a few rare s4, like Ali baba, sha wujing etc.

I also have 3 ominous fire because he seem balanced (I should get the 4th this event).

So, I always check cards on the calculator so I know the stats if I'll get them to s4, but what should I focus on ? Wait for UR or rewind ? Any help would be great.
You can pm me on Facebook for an easier chat, I'm Tzahi Aknin.

Edit : Torn is *Torn* in game ? Cuz your in my ally list :)
Edit 2 : just played with 1 BE with 3 rewinders, did 6.8m which is my highest this event, so now I kinda get it :)